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Brazilian air force finds Air France plane debris

Posted: 02 June 2009 2044 hrs

A Brazilian couple, relatives of a passenger onboard the ill-fated Air France flight 447.

BRASILIA - Search aircraft on Tuesday found a seat and other debris from a plane in a remote stretch of the Atlantic where an Air France flight carrying 228 people disappeared, Brazil's air force said.

The "small remains" were discovered around 1,100 kilometres (680 miles) off northeastern Brazil, some 650 kilometres northeast of Brazil's Atlantic island of Fernando do Noronha.

The items included a seat from a plane, bits of white material, an orange buoy, a barrel and some oil and kerosene slicks, grouped in two floating patches 60 kilometers apart, according to an air force statement.

It could not immediately be confirmed that the debris was from Air France flight AF 447, the spokesman, Colonel Jorge Amaral, told reporters.

There were no signs of survivors, he said.

"The search is continuing because it's very little material in relation to the size" of the Air France Airbus A330, he said.

He added that officials needed "a piece that might have a serial number, some sort of identification" to be sure that it came from the missing airliner.

However the items were found near where the Air France plane sent its final message: an automatic data signal telling of multiple electric and pressurization failures.

Air France flight AF 447 disappeared mid-Atlantic on Monday, four hours into an 11-hour flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris.

A Brazilian air force statement said the debris was discovered at 0300 GMT Tuesday by an Embraer R-99 AWAC plane fitted with onboard radar that detected metallic and non-metallic items floating in the ocean.

After homing in the search to that locale, other air force planes at 0949 GMT spotted the patches of floating debris.

- AFP /ls

From ChannelNewsAsia.com; see the source article here.


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Finding downed jet in open ocean is a tall order

June 2, 2009 -- Updated 1756 GMT (0156 HKT)

Story Highlights

  • Search area was approximately 11.5 million acres, expert says
  • Air France jet disappeared more than 200 miles from Brazilian coast Monday
  • Expert: Plane sent 10 transmissions reporting problems just before vanishing
  • Past investigations into ocean crashes have taken more than two years

    A Brazilian radar plane is fuelled up Monday at the Fernando de Noronha airport to search for Flight 447.

    (CNN) -- Though searchers believe that they have found debris from an Air France jet that disappeared off Brazil's coast Monday, finding the entire plane and learning exactly what downed it could be a tedious, years-long process.

    Many factors can complicate a search effort. Tradewinds and ocean currents can quickly scatter wreckage across several square miles, and the plane's altitude -- almost 7 miles, in the case of Flight 447 -- can make it difficult to pin down where the aircraft hit the water.

    "It's a big ocean," said John Hansman, director of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's International Center for Air Transportation. "Once you're offshore, you're no longer in direct radar contact."

    It varies from airline to airline, but passenger jets generally send location reports every few hundred miles when they're over open water, Hansman said.

    They also send out maintenance reports via satellite that provide the plane's location at a specific time. Some maintenance reports are routine; others are sent when a problem or malfunction is detected, Hansman said.

    Flight 447 was carrying 228 passengers and crew members from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, France. About three hours into the journey, more than 200 miles off Brazil's coast, the jet transmitted 10 maintenance reports: one for each piece of malfunctioning equipment, the professor said.

    About 10 to 15 minutes later, when the Airbus A330 was scheduled to be over the Canary Islands -- where the radio would generally function better, because the plane is over land -- Flight 447 was expected to send a location report but didn't, Hansman said.

    "You don't know that you lost contact until it didn't make its position report," he said, but "missing one position report is not that big a concern. When it didn't check in over the Canary Islands ... that's when they realized something was seriously wrong."

    Darkness and severe weather complicated the immediate search effort. Further hampering the search was that Flight 447 vanished in what is known as the Intertropical Convergence Zone, a place where the Northern and Southern hemispheres -- and their tradewinds -- meet, spawning some of the world's most severe thunderstorms.

    Identifying the search area is also difficult. In the 10 to 15 minutes that passed between the maintenance reports and the missed location report, the plane could have covered about 150 miles, Hansman said.

    Searchers will generally designate an area covering about 60 miles on each side of the flight path, making the search area about 18,000 square miles, or 11.5 million acres, of open ocean.

    Rescuers will use aircraft, flying 1,000 to 2,000 feet above the water, to search the area on a grid. They look for an oil slick, life rafts or other evidence of the crash, Hansman said. Finding debris can be difficult because only small items such as seats, life vests, pillows and personal belongings will float.

    Once rescuers locate signs of the crash, they send the coordinates to watercraft assisting in the effort, but it doesn't necessarily mean they've found the crash site, Hansman said.

    "The components of the wreckage are going to spread out due to the currents below," he said, explaining that heavier parts such as the engine will sink more precipitously. "Lighter parts drift more with the current."

    Another factor muddling rescuers' efforts is the Atlantic Ocean's depth in the area where Flight 447 disappeared. It can reach up to 2 miles below sea level at some points, experts said.

    In the past, rescuers have experienced problems with recovery operations in shallower water and in operations in which they knew the exact location where the plane hit the water.

    Salvagers spent more than six months recovering plane parts and victims from the waters off Long Island, New York, after TWA Flight 800 crashed there July 17, 1996. The Paris-bound flight exploded about 13 minutes after takeoff from John F. Kennedy Airport.

    On October 31, 1999, EgyptAir Flight 990 crashed in water about 250 feet deep near Nantucket Island, Massachusetts. It took about five months before searchers pulled the plane's second engine from the ocean, and the National Transportation Safety Board did not release its final report on the crash until March 2002.

    There were also problems in the investigation into Swissair Flight 111, which crashed September 2, 1998, into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Nova Scotia. The water was only 180 feet deep, but it took searchers nine days to find the cockpit voice recorder.

    From CNN.com; see the source article here.


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